Comparing Abode to Scout and Simplisafe
By - 01/10/2019abode rolled out during a period where self-monitored home security systems were a dime a dozen. They just barely made their Kickstarter goal, but as promised, they’ve delivered a product to backers. A few years later, abode is one of the few self-monitored startups that appears to be going strong. So what is it about abode that makes it both unique and successful?
What is abode?
abode is a home security system that can either be self-monitored for free or professionally monitored 24/7 for a price. Unlike other monitoring companies, abode does not require a contract. In fact, you can choose to have your system monitored for a few days or a week versus the typical month-to-month option. In addition to home security, abode provides smart home integration through relationships with other connected devices and services. What you can do with the product will depend on what package you choose. Currently, they offer three packages: Basic, Connect, and Connect + Secure.
BASIC | CONNECT | CONNECT + SECURE | |
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Price | $0 | $10/month or $96/year | $30/month or $240/year |
iOS, Android, and Web App Control | |||
Geofencing | |||
3G Cellular Backup | |||
24/7 Professional Monitoring | Optional On-Demand Professional Monitoring (3 Days: $8 / 7 Days: $15) |
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Timeline and Media Storage | 3 Days | 14 Days | 90 Days |
Unlimited User Accounts | |||
IFTTT, Amazon Echo, Works with Nest, Google Assistant | |||
HomeKit | Coming Soon | Coming Soon | Coming Soon |
Customer Support | Email and Support Site | Phone, Email, and Support Site | Premium Phone, Email, and Support Site |
abode Equipment
While abode can connect to other smart home and home security devices, it can also protect your home on its own using abode-branded devices. All of abode’s devices are wireless and can be self-installed in minutes. To start, you’ll need either a Gateway or abode iota.
abode Gateway
The Gateway is a Z-Wave and Zigbee-enabled hub/controller. It communicates with your connected sensors using a proprietary protocol called abodeRF. The protocol encrypts communication between the Gateway and your devices as well as communication between the Gateway and the cloud. When your Gateway receives information from your connected devices, it then sends the information to the cloud, your app, or the central monitoring center depending on what event has occurred and how you’ve previously asked it to respond. In addition to handling communication, the Gateway will keep you up and running thanks to battery backup (10 hours) and a cellular chip. It even has an integrated 95db siren.
The abode Gateway can support up to 150 connected devices and up to six IP Streaming Cameras. After using the Gateway (thanks to abode who generously allowed me to test their system for free), I found that there are both pros and cons.
PROS
- Works as Intended
- Battery Backup Worked and Notification Received When System Lost Power
CONS
- Requires Ethernet
- Small LED Light Indicates System Status
abode iota
If you want to set up an abode system, but don’t want another Ethernet hogging device, you should consider iota. iota is an alternative to the abode Gateway that shares many of its features. Fortunately, there are differences between the two that might help you choose one over the other.
First of all, iota can protect your home on its own. It acts as a gateway hub, but it’s also a camera with a motion sensor. The abode Gateway, on the other hand, requires that you connect other devices for whole home protection.
Second, iota does not require Ethernet. There is an Ethernet port on the back of the device that you can choose to use or it can connect using WiFi.
iota’s camera specs mimic those offered by the Streaming Camera, which we’ll get to in a minute. In short, iota records in FHD 1080p, has a 152° field of view, night vision, two-way audio, and a built-in motion detector. It also shares a lot of the same features offered by the abode Gateway including 10-hour battery backup, 3G (soon to be 4G) cellular connectivity, and smart hub capabilities. iota can connect with Z-Wave, Zigbee, and abode RF devices. It also shares the same integrations (Google Assistant, Amazon Alexa, Nest, IFTTT, Philips Hue, ecobee, HomeKit, and LIFX). Finally, it has access to the same paid plans as the abode gateway. You can self-monitor the camera or add a paid monitoring plan, which will also activate the camera’s cellular chip.
iota is now shipping. You can order it here.
PROS
- Free Cloud Storage
- Acts as a Smart Home Hub
CONS
- Performance TBD
abode Sensors and Keypad
Once you choose between iota and Gateway, the next step is to purchase sensors.
The Gateway is sold in kits which include sensors. The Starter Kit is $279.00 and includes a Gateway, 1 Mini Door/Window Sensor, 1 Motion Sensor, and a Key Fob. No matter which kit you choose, you can add other devices as needed. If you purchase iota, it ships as a standalone device, but again, you can add other sensors.
Let’s start with Door/Window Contacts. The contact sensors will monitor doors, cabinets, windows, or anything that opens and closes. abode even promises that the sensors will run on battery for 10+ years. The door/window sensor comes in multiple flavors including mini (really small), recessed (invisible installation), and slim (invisible installation without drilling).
Second, abode sells a Wireless Keypad. The keypad supports 40 unique codes, includes a backlit interface, and has a battery life of 4-6 years. The keypad includes three LEDS that will indicate if the system is armed, disarmed, or armed home. To conserve battery life, the lights are not always on. Instead, you will need to press a button on the keypad to light up the display.
Third, abode sells a Key Fob. Using the Key Fob, you can arm and disarm your system with a click.
Fourth, they sell an Indoor Motion Sensor The battery-powered sensor monitors for movement and will send a notification to your phone if anything is detected. It can also be used as an automation trigger. For example, “If motion detector detects motion, turn on the lights.” As an alternative, you can use the Occupancy Sensor for the same purpose. The abode Occupancy Sensor detects motion, light, and temperature.
Fifth, they sell Glass Break Sensors including a Glass Break and Vibration Sensor that monitors for shock and vibration as well as an Acoustic Glass Break Sensor that listens for the sound made by breaking glass.
Finally, abode sells a Motion Camera and two Streaming Cameras to round out their list of devices.
PROS
- All Tested Devices Worked as Intended
- Easy Installation
CONS
- The Primary Sensors are Clunky, Cheap Feeling
abode Cameras
abode’s Motion Camera is an image sensor. It’s a pet-immune (pets under 60lbs) motion sensor with a camera. If it senses movement, it will snap a photo and send it to you for visual verification. As motion detectors are a common cause of false alarms, being able to visually identify if an alert is real or not is essential, and abode is the only self-monitored home security system offering this technology.
Like most image sensors, the Motion Camera is low-definition (640x480p). However, at close range, the image quality is sufficient. When an event is detected, it takes three photographs and sends them to your timeline with a copy sent via email. The email includes the actual photograph so that you can quickly glance to determine if an event is real or not.
PROS
- Takes Three Consecutive Photographs
- Sends Snapshot to Email and Timeline
CONS
- Clunky, Cheap Feeling
- Low Resolution
The Streaming Camera is a traditional home security camera. The camera uses WiFi or an Ethernet connection and offers live streaming in 720p HD, IR LEDs for night vision, and a wide angle field of view. When an event is detected, the Streaming Camera records to the cloud or you can add a microSD card to store footage locally as well.
The Streaming Camera is not my favorite security camera. First of all, motion detection with this device is confusing. Without a MicroSD card, it relies on other sensors to trigger event recordings, or it will record when a rule is triggered. For example, you can set a rule that says, “record a video clip when the front door opens”. With a MicroSD card, the camera will record video when motion is detected; however, it cannot activate the alarm siren nor will you receive a notification when an event is detected, making the feature rather useless. Alternatively, you can request clips on-demand from the mobile app.
The second reason I’m not a Streaming Camera fan is that it doesn’t record sound. The abode team assures me that if you choose to add a microSD card to the camera, it will record sound with clips. My camera, however, did not. Also, in order to view clips with sound, you will need to remove the microSD card from the camera and insert it into a computer. The third reason I’m not a fan is that you can’t download clips locally from the app. You can only save clips using the microSD card. Fourth, the video quality is just okay. In the YouTube video below, you can compare footage from SimpliSafe’s camera to abode’s at minute 1:55. Both cameras record in 720p, but SimpliSafe’s picture is clearer. On that note, abode’s night vision quality appears to be superior. Fifth, you can’t control any of the camera’s settings. Finally, I’m not a fan of the boxy design.
Fortunately, it’s not all doom and gloom with the Streaming Camera. For free, abode provides three days of cloud storage for video events. You can view these events with or without the added microSD card, and you can view them from the web portal or the mobile app. Also, the camera effectively captures pre-event footage. It records 2 seconds pre-alarm and 8 seconds post.
The Streaming Camera V2 improves on several of V1’s shortcomings. V2 can also use Ethernet or WiFi and offers many of the same features as V1 but it has an improved FHD 1080p resolution and two-way audio.
PROS
- Free Cloud Storage
- Option for Local Storage
- Pre-Event Recording
- Optional Wall Mount
CONS
- Motion Detection Confusing
- Clunky Design
Smart Home Devices and Rules
If you want to expand beyond abode-branded devices, you have several options including Nest, IFTTT, Zigbee, Z-Wave, Philips Hue, ecobee, LIFX, Google Assistant, HomeKit (coming soon), and Amazon Alexa. Through integration, you can control all of your devices with one app and create rules that are made even more intelligent via abode’s native geofencing feature and CUE, an enhanced automation engine. For example, when all of your family members are away from home, you can set a reminder to arm your abode system, set your Cree lights to turn off, and your Nest thermostat to adjust accordingly.
CUE: Native Rule-Based Automation
CUE is a feature built into the abode app. Think of it as IFTTT for abode. From the app, you will create triggers and actions in a format such as, “When this trigger happens, then do this action.” To take this a step further, you can add an optional condition. For example, “If my front door is opened, turn on the front door light, but only if it’s dark outside.
Currently, you can select from the following triggers:
- Status Triggers: Changing Mode (Standby, Home, Away)
- Device Status Triggers: (Door Open, Door Closed, Etc.)
- Location Triggers: Enter or Leave Geofence
- Schedule Triggers: Based on a Schedule Set By You (Time, Day)
- Environment Triggers: (Sunrise, Sunset, Dark Outside, Light Outside)
IFTTT: Third-Party Rule-Based Automation
abode also has its own IFTTT channel. IFTTT connects internet connected services and devices using applets in an “if this then that” format. Yes, it’s similar to CUE. The difference is that IFTTT can connect abode to devices that wouldn’t otherwise work with abode.
abode’s channel provides both Triggers (the if) and Actions (the then). As a Trigger, abode can request another device to take action if an alarm is activated, if you change the mode, if a door is opened/closed, if a door is locked/unlocked, if a garage door is opened/closed, or if a switch is on/off. If you prefer another device to be the trigger, abode can take the following actions: change mode, turn a switch on/off, toggle switch, change dimmer level, lock/unlock, close/open garage door, or quick action. For example, IFTTT can call your phone if abode’s alarm is triggered or flash your Hue bulbs if your front door is opened.
Z-Wave and Zigbee
Of course, rule-based automation becomes even more interesting when you connect devices to abode. And while abode works with its own devices, it also works with third-party devices.
abode maintains a list of devices that are compatible with their system thanks to Z-Wave & Zigbee, both protocols supported by the abode Gateway (or iota). The list includes devices made by Aeon, Cree, Danalock (V3 Z-Wave + Bluetooth version) Enerwave, GE, Kiwkset, Linear, Philips Hue, Schlagle, and Netvox.
Works with Nest
Through Works with Nest, abode integrates with the Nest Protect, Nest Thermostat, and Nest Cam. You can choose to integrate with all of your Nest devices or limit abode to specific Nest devices. You also have the option to allow abode to sync with your Nest modes or keep them separate. If you decide to sync modes, abode will trigger Nest to Away Mode when abode is in Away Mode or tell Nest to change to Home Mode when abode is in Home or Standby Mode.
Nest Cam and Cloud Storage
If you choose to integrate abode with Nest Cam, it will not replace Nest Aware, Nest’s cloud recording service. What it can do will depend on your Nest Aware subscription as well as your abode subscription. As it appears that abode actually expands upon Nest’s included storage, I wanted to be very clear about the offer. After several emails and a phone call with the abode team, this is what I learned.
No Nest Plan | Nest Aware 5 Day | Nest Aware 10 Day | Nest Aware 30 Day | |
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Without Abode | $0 / 3 Hours Snapshots via Nest | $5 / 5 Days via Nest | $10 / 10 Days via Nest | $30 / 30 Days via Nest |
Abode Basic | $0 / 3 Days of Snapshots via Abode | $5 / 5 Days via Nest and Abode | $10 / 10 Days via Nest and Abode | $30 / 10 Days via Abode or 30 via Nest |
Abode CONNECT | $10 / 10 Days of Snapshots via Abode | $15 / 5 Days via Nest and 10 Days via Abode | $20 / 10 Days via Nest and Abode | $40 / 10 Days via Abode or 30 via Nest |
Abode CONNECT + SECURE | $30 / 10 Days of Snapshots via Abode | $35 / 5 Days via Nest and 10 Days via Abode | $40 / 10 Days via Nest and Abode | $60 / 10 Days via Abode or 30 via Nest |
Prices are per month, Nest provides a discount for additional cameras. |
According to abode,
For all abode/Nest integrations, regardless of whether or not the customer has a Nest Aware plan, abode stores Nest Cam Snapshots in the timeline for a maximum of 10 days. If the user is on the abode Basic plan, those snapshots are deleted after 3 days. If the user is on the Connect or Connect + Secure plan, the snapshots are deleted after 10 days per Nest TOS. Customers without a Nest Aware plan can only capture 2 snapshots per minute whereas customers with a Nest Aware plan can have 10 snapshots per minute.
As you can see, there are pros and cons to using abode to monitor your Nest Cam. For free, Nest only offers 3 hours of snapshot storage, so adding an abode system provides more storage. Another pro to using abode with Nest is that you can use people as a trigger for events. When choosing your event type, you can opt to see motion, people, or sound events within your timeline. The integration also works with modes and zones. For example, you can set up a rule that only records people events that occur on your porch to your abode timeline.
The downside is that even if you are a Nest Aware subscriber, abode only stores snapshots (a.k.a. pictures). When an alarm event is detected, abode will automatically trigger your Nest Cam to record. A snapshot will be logged to your timeline, and you will receive a notice via email as well as a push notification. Unfortunately, the email does not include the snapshot. Rather, it lets you know that one is available and provides a link to your abode timeline.
Fortunately, you can always navigate over to Nest.com to view your full video history. And if you are subscribed to the Nest Aware 30 day plan, you will also need to navigate over to see anything recorded beyond the included 10-day history.
ecobee
Next, you can integrate your ecobee thermostat. The integration works similarly to the integration with the Nest Thermostat. According to abode co-founder Christopher Carney,
The abode system already features deep integration with the Nest thermostat but with this release, abode customers can dive even deeper into access and control of the temperature of their home. Couple that with our newest ability to offer the same level of integration with ecobee and we’re opening up the abode system to an all-new group of customers.
RGB Bulb Support
You can also control your LIFX and Hue bulbs from the abode app. From the app, you can control brightness, hue, and saturation. You can also use the lights to notify you of events. For example, they can turn red if an alarm event occurs or blue if your flood sensor detects water.
Amazon Echo and Google Assistant
Though you can connect Amazon Echo and abode using IFTTT, you can also integrate the two directly using an Alexa skill. You can ask Alexa to retrieve abode’s system status, mode, to arm abode, disarm it, trigger panic mode, call the police (assuming you’re using CONNECT + SECURE), trigger a fire alarm, check the status of your doors, windows, lock your doors, unlock them, control your connected RGB light bulbs, etc. As an added security measure, you must provide a verbal PIN code to disarm your abode system or to unlock your doors using Amazon Alexa.
abode motion sensors and door/window sensors also integrate with Alexa Routines, a rule-based automation feature. After linking your abode account to Alexa, discover new devices via the Alexa app and add abode motion and door/window sensor. Once added, you can set them as triggers to Routines. For example, you can set Alexa to speak a certain phrase when your door opens, “Who’s There?”. Your sensors can also trigger other smart home products that are controllable via Alexa Routines, such as smart lights or outlets.
In addition to using your voice, you can also control and monitor your abode system using the Alexa App. From the app, you can monitor the status of your devices and see whether a door is open or closed, a light is turned on or off, etc. You can also directly control your devices using the app and even group them together based on their location within your home.
Regarding functionality, abode’s Alexa skill is vastly superior to most integrations between home security systems and Alexa. It also appears to be superior in regards to user feedback. The skill is currently rated 4 stars where similar skills are rated 2 stars. In testing, the skill worked flawlessly.
If you’re a Google Home user, you’ll be happy to hear that abode also works with Google Assistant. You can say things like, “Okay Google, turn on my kitchen lights,” or “Hey Google, turn off all lights.” For now, the integration is limited to control of abode-connected smart lights, dimmers, and switches. You can’t yet control your alarm system, but abode promises to upgrade the integration over the air in the near future.
HomeKit
Finally, HomeKit. At first, only iota was slated to gain HomeKit compatibility and it will be first, but the Gateway will join soon thereafter. Using the Apple Home App, you can add abode devices to your rooms and scenes. For example, you can create a “Good Morning” scene that turns on your lights, disarms your iota, adjust’s your thermostat, and more.
abode vs. SimpliSafe vs. Scout
As a security system, abode is most comparable to Scout, though it’s often compared to SimpliSafe. Like Scout and SimpliSafe, abode is a self-monitored home security system with the option for professional monitoring. Ironically, they all three use COPS monitoring services, though abode also uses UCC. They all three use a cellular signal for monitoring though abode technically uses Ethernet with a cellular backup.
What sets abode apart from SimpliSafe is that it’s smart home ready as it’s equipped with Z-Wave, ZigBee, and other automation features. What sets it apart from Scout is that abode offers home automation features, including IFTTT, for free and they provide improved usability through devices like their keypad and image sensor. What sets abode apart from both SimpliSafe and Scout is that as a free, self-monitored system it provides actual security value.
Self-Monitored, No Fee Plans Compared
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Monthly Fee | $0.00 | $0.00 | $0.00 |
Smartphone Arm/Disarm | |||
SMS/Email Alert | |||
Battery Backup | |||
Built-in Siren | |||
Home Automation Features Included | |||
IFTTT Access | |||
Amazon Echo Integration | |||
Google Home Integration | |||
Works with Nest | |||
HomeKit | Coming Soon | ||
Security Camera Integration | 3 Days of Timeline and Media Access | Live Streaming Only | |
Where to Buy | Amazon | Visit Site | Best Buy |
Paid Plans Compared
Another feature that sets abode apart is that you can add a no contract monthly plan for professional monitoring or you can add on-demand professional monitoring. For $8, you can pay for three days of monitoring, perfect for weekend trips. Or for $15 you can add seven days of professional monitoring. If you prefer to pay per month, they have two plans to cover you: Connect and Connect + Secure.
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Plans | CONNECT | CONNECT + SECURE |
Always On | Always On + | Standard | Interactive |
Monthly Fee | $10.00* | $30.00* | $9.99* | $19.99* | $14.99 | $24.99 |
DIY Installation | ||||||
Wireless Technology | ||||||
24/7 Alarm Monitoring | ||||||
UL Certified monitoring | ||||||
SMS/Email Alert | $5.00/month | |||||
Geofencing | Via IFTTT | |||||
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Plans | CONNECT | CONNECT + SECURE |
Always On | Always On + | Standard | Interactive |
Cellular Connection / 3G | ||||||
Smartphone Arm/Disarm | ||||||
Contract | Not Required | Not Required | Not Required | |||
Android and iPhone App | ||||||
Windows App | ||||||
Home Automation | Nest Thermostat and August Smart Lock | |||||
Amazon Echo, Google Assistant, & IFTTT Access | Alexa and Google Assistant (SimpliSafe 3 Only) | |||||
HomeKit | Coming Soon | |||||
Indoor Security Camera | Abode Camera & Limited Integration With Nest Cam | Scout HD Indoor Camera & Limited Integration With Nest Cam | ||||
Outdoor Security Camera | Limited Integration With Nest Cam | Limited Integration With Nest Cam | Video Doorbell Pro | |||
Recorded Video History | Included | $3.00/month/camera or $10.00/month/unlimited cameras | Included for 1 Camera | $4.99/month/camera or $9.99/month/unlimited cameras | ||
Return Policy | 14 Day Return Policy | 60 Day | 60 Day | |||
Product Warranty | 1 Year Limited | 3 Year | 3 Year | |||
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Where to Buy | Amazon | Scout | Best Buy |
*Scout offers a 10% discount if you pay annually. abode offers an even greater discount. Connect is $96 per year, Connect + Secure is $240,
Equipment Costs Compared
All three systems start with a base station. SimpliSafe’s base station works hand-in-hand with a keypad where abode’s keypad is sold separately, and Scout doesn’t offer one at all. In some ways, this is an advantage for SimpliSafe. SimpliSafe 3 also has an additional advantage: The base station uses an LED light to indicate system status. With abode, the base station has one tiny light that swaps between red, flashing red, and off to indicate if the system is armed or disarmed. Scout uses an LED light which swaps between white, purple, and black. But to make things more confusing, Scout’s color system means one thing if seen on the base station and another if seen on the door panel.
With the base stations in place, you can build your security system by adding sensors. All three companies offer kits, packages which include the base station and multiple pre-selected sensors. However, you can add equipment a la carte until you have what you need to protect your home. The below chart outlines sensor cost if purchased outside of a kit.
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Entry Sensor | $29.00 | $29.00 | $14.99 |
Motion Sensor | $54.00 | $49.00 | $29.99 |
Glass Break Sensor | $59.00 | $39.00 | $34.99 |
System Status Indicator | $36.00 | ||
Water Sensor | $39.00 | $39.99 | $19.99 |
Temperature, Humidity, & Light Sensor | $49.00 | ||
Freeze Sensor | $29.99 | ||
Extra Keychain Remote | $27.00 | $4.99 | $24.99 |
RFID Sticker | $2.49 | ||
Extra Siren | $59.00 (95dB) | $59.99 (105dB) | |
Panic Button | $19.99 | ||
Smoke Detector | $49.00 | $29.99 | |
CO Detector | $49.00 | $49.99 | |
Extra Keypad | $79.00 | $69.00 (Door Panel) | $69.99 |
Extra Entry Magnet | $4.99 | ||
Occupancy Sensor | $59.00 | ||
Image Sensor | $115.00 | ||
Security Camera | $149.00 | $79.00-$99.00 | $99.00 |
Video Doorbell | $169.00 | ||
Home Automation Power Outlet & ZigBee Extender | $49.00 |
Final Thoughts
On paper, abode appeared to be superior to both SimpliSafe and Scout. After testing, I feel the same way. (In addition to testing abode, I have tested both SimpliSafe and Scout. You can read about my experience here.)
What disappointed me the most about abode was the feel of the hardware. Though abode looks cool on the web, it feels cheap and clunky in person, and the camera concept is a miss. However, they offer all of the free services they promise, their geofencing feature is the most accurate I’ve ever tested, their customer service/tech support is out of this world stellar, the integrations improve home security, and the system works. In my opinion, the pros outweigh the cons.
abode suggests you get started with a starter kit. The starter kit sells for $279.00 and includes the Gateway, one mini door/window sensor, a key fob, and a motion sensor. You can purchase the kit from Amazon. iota sells for $329.00.
Last Updated 1/10/2019
abode is adding HomeKit to iota and Gateway. It also works with Dana Lock. Ring works with Dana Lock, more Z-Wave locks, and August.
Read Previous Updates
10/24/2018 SimpliSafe added Video Doorbell Pro and abode added CUE
06/25/2018 Updates to Scout with new camera and cloud storage as well as other new devices.
1/28/2018 Updated With SimpliSafe 3 and New abode Pricing
1/10/2018 Added information on abode’s new iota camera and Google Assistant integration.
10/12/2017 abode has added a new streaming camera, RGB bulb support, ecobee support, expanded Nest integrations, and more.
3/20/2017 updated with hands-on abode experience
Correction, “The Gateway is a Z-Wave, Zigbee, and WiFi-enabled hub/controller.” Actually as you state later, the Gateway version isn’t WiFi but wired Ethernet only.
Thanks
Wow. I don’t favor one over the other, but you have a lot of misinformation on scout.
I’m always open to feedback. Anything specific you want to call out? I will add that my Scout actually has some of the self-monitored features because I was one of the first to own a Scout system. If you were too, you may have features that other people cannot access for free.
Please share with your friends. 😉 I am looking to buy and am reading all of Rose’s reviews.
Hey Tally, I reached out to a Scout corporate employee that I met at CES and asked him to fact check the article. He got back to me this morning and said that all is well. I’m thinking that perhaps Ryan was an early adopter like me? Early adopters have more features than those who are buying now.
Scout has IFTTT support
https://ifttt.com/scoutalarm
Remote arm and disarm is supported from mobile.
https://www.scoutalarm.com/how-it-works
Thanks. That’s all noted in the chart above. I think what might be confusing people is the two charts. With Scout, you can only access these features if you pay, unless you were an early adopter. As mentioned above, I even asked Scout to fact check this article recently, and they said the information presented is correct. You will see IFTTT support marked yes under Scout on the “Paid Plans Compared” chart but not on the “Self-Monitored, No Fee Plans Compared” chart.
Would you be able to integrate Amazon’s indoor camera and the First Alert wireless smoke/CO2 detector into the Abode hub/system?
Amazon’s Cloud Cam will not work with abode, but the First Alert device will work (assuming you’re talking about the Z-Wave version, of course).
Excellent & informative article, thank you!
Question I have, I use the Almond (by Securifi) as my home smart hub. It is WiFi router, Zigbee & Z-Wave device compatible. I also already have a Nest thermostat & Nest smoke detectors.
This system is for a vacation cabin property that I rent out on a limited basis. I must be able to remotely arm/disarm thru an App, and I want to have a system that I have the choice to self monitor but option to upgrade to pro monitoring possibly in the future. I want to purchase & integrate 2 external cameras & 6 window/door sensors to make up my system. Is the abode the option you would recommend? (Dumb question alert) Do I need to get a Gateway or iota to manage the system or can that be accomplished just connecting thru my Almond hub?
Any direction you can offer would be awesome…there are just so many options it gets confusing fast!
If you want to use abode devices, but especially professional monitoring, then yes, you would need a Gateway or an iota. I don’t think you necessarily need abode since you can accomplish smart home tasks using your router, but since you plan to use the system as a hybrid self/pro monitored system then I do think that that’s the best option for you as you can control it with your smartphone without a monthly fee.
If you decide that professional monitoring is not a big deal, you can do a lot with your Almond hub, assuming you like the system and find it stable enough. I’m not as familiar with Almond as I am other smart home systems, but the one I saw at CES was smart home ready with a mobile app that allowed for arming and disarming via modes. I know Almond works with Nest so that would help consolidate your ecosystem. For sensors, I recommend you add the Door & Window Sensor (2nd Edition) by AEON Labs or the DWZWAVE2-ECO by Ecolink. If you have a garage, I recommend the ECO-TILT-US tilt sensor. I also recommend you add a siren to your Almond router. I actually use an Ecolink sensor in my house so I feel comfortable recommending that option.
Hi,
Can i purchase and use the system on the basic plan outside of the USA (im in Australia).
I do not want any monitoring services or cellular backup.
Would it work?
I had to ask abode about that one. According to them, ” The abode system can be used in the AU with a power adapter. The Z-Wave frequency in AU is also different than the US, so any Z-Wave devices added will need to be US frequency.”
Thanks for such a great review..I have a small 2 story colonial house. If my main concern is theft for stuff on my 2nd floor and had the motion detector in a very central location on the 1st floor and a thief would have to pass the motion sensor to trigger the alarm would it be necessary to have sensors on all my windows and doors?
That’s really up to you. Could a thief grab a ladder and enter through a second-floor window? Yes. But statistically, it’s unlikely. Statistically, your front door, back door, and garage door are the most vulnerable places. I recommend grabbing sensors for these three entry points and using a motion detector and a glass break protector to monitor your windows (versus buying a sensor for every single window).
Thank you for this. The only thing holding me back are the old sensors I have all over my house. I have ole wireless sensors from my Honeywell VIA-30 system. LiveWatch told me they can sell me an adapter that will make those sensors all work with their product, which is VERY compelling. Do you know if Abode offers that???
Thanks!
I don’t believe they have a takeover module, but LiveWatch does, and it is one I would recommend.
Hi Rose,
I am all set in my mind with Abode (mostly Iota). But I am stuck with one question with Iota (I know you haven’t fully tested it out yet) vs. Gateway:
How feasible is the Iota (gateway+camera+motion detector) being placed in a single location vs. the flexibility of gateway alone being placed in a location with the sensors put in different places for a small condo of 1900 sqft? The question is more of a what-would-you-do scenario.
Other considerations:
– If the abode app is the only way to disarm (if Iota) and monitor on the phone if I am outside, I guess my question would obviously be – how stable is the app on android? Was the app tested thoroughly with Iota streaming camera?
– How is the performance of indoor camera vs. built-in camera in Iota? I personally love the idea of built-in motion detection and camera together on Iota to avoid connectivity issues (if any) but I don’t know which one is better – indoor camera+gateway or Iota
You can add additional sensors to iota. I’m sure you know that but thought I would call it out. I personally believe in layered security so adding a door/window sensor to an entry door would be a must. Second, if you are on the first floor or have accessible windows, I would add a glass break sensor. I also think that a camera is a must so in some ways iota is nice as it merges camera with motion detection. Personally, I usually go the gateway route because I’m a camera snob. Camera technology changes so quickly that it’s nice to be able to swap out cameras as newer and better technology hits the market. However, I also think that iota is a fine choice.—- I don’t know how stable the app will be with iota but iota is actually the same technology as their current 1080p Streaming Camera plus the extra sensors so that should have given them some prep. Recently, my dad has been running the abode system at his house. He likes it, but has complained about two things: 1. multiuser geofencing is inaccurate 2. Every once and awhile, he’s had to reset some of the sensors. He has not once complained about the app. The app worked well for me too.
Thanks a lot Rose. I am still confused between the two though :(. I do agree with the camera being able to be replaced with newer tech but if the performance is satisfactory, then I personally don’t see the need to replace it. I am still leaning towards Iota with additional sensors like you mentioned, but will look out for first hand reviews once it hits the market and then pick one or the other.
Thanks a lot for your advice and info.
Thanks a lot for the great detailed review. Regarding camera, I am with you.
Is there any abode compatible streaming camera that you recommend with these features: (local storage for continuous recording, cloud based triggered recording, abode sensor triggering cloud camera recording)?
Thx again
No, but we could look at IFTTT-compatible cameras. Perhaps Wyze Cam? abode has a “door opened/closed” trigger and Wyze has a “record a short clip” action.
Thanks for a great review. I’m coming up to speed on IoT and smart home security systems. A great concern is my system will be hacked so someone could disable the system or shut it down without my knowledge.
How are we protected by any of these DIY security systems? Thanks for sharing your expertise.
That is a topic to be aware of, for sure. It isn’t one I dig into much. I know SimpliSafe and iSmartAlarm have both had issues discovered by security researchers. Ring, on the other hand, will be the first to use Z-Wave S2 and SmartStart. In theory, device manufacturers should be responsible for providing a secure device, but that still isn’t happening in all cases. In the meantime, I recommend a device like RATtrap to help secure your network.
Hi, greetings from Colombia. I would like to install this security system on my store (Small Store on a shopping mall) and what I want is that if someone opens the door to the store. It activates a siren or something laud to make the security personel of the shopping mall be aware. If this is not the case what would be the best option for me without paying for a monthly plan because I´m on a shopping mall with security people.
Hello there. How large is the mall? All three systems will do exactly what you want them to do but I’m worried that if it’s a huge mall the security guard might not hear the alarm. I wonder if he/she would also be willing to download the app to get a mobile alert? If so, that would eliminate SimpliSafe as you have to pay for app access.
Thanks for answering so fast. Is small but it would be great if I can get a siren that can be add to the system or do you have any other in mind? I guess my principal concern is that if someone opens the main door it starts to make noise as hell so that the security people run to my store.
Yes, a system with a secondary siren would be great, as these sirens (abode, Scout, and SimpliSafe) aren’t super loud. The new Nest Secure does not allow for a secondary siren so you can eliminate that one. Ring Protect is still on hold pending litigation so you can eliminate that one. iSmartAlarm explicitly states that they don’t recommend using the system outside the US so that’s a no. SimpliSafe and Scout will not send text alerts for free so I recommend you eliminate them as well for your use case…leaving us with abode and SmartThings. SmartThings ships to the US and Canada, but I’ve read on their forum that users have used it overseas, including Colombia, without issue. IMO, SmartThings is your best option, but you’ll need to be a little creative. You’ll need a hub, then you’ll need to purchase a SmartThings multi-sensor for each door and then you will need to purchase multiple Z-Wave sirens. I recommend the Aeotec Siren Gen5. You’ll also need to be diligent about arming and disarming the system yourself. The SmartThings app is terrible and takes some getting used to so know that going in. Also, I would still dig into using the system in Colombia.
Hi,
I am looking for an affordable Security system for my small business. Was looking at SS but after reading your review am looking at Abode. Do you think it would be a good system ?
How large is your office? How many exterior doors and windows would you try to protect?
You stated you preferred the nest camera over the Abode camera. How does the new 1080p streaming camera work compared to nest?
I have not had the privilege of testing it. I received the abode system before the launch of the 1080p streaming camera.
Hi,
Some reviews on Amazon suggest people have received defective Abode devices and more importantly have experienced the device becomes temporarily disconnected from the network/internet. What are your thoughts on this?
IMO, quality of service for such smart devices is of paramount importance when it comes to comparing products. Would appreciate your feedback on this.
Thanks!
I haven’t run abode here for a while. I have it at my dad’s house and he hasn’t mentioned any problems with connectivity.
Thanks for the review. I currently have an ADT system with cellular backup and have been going back and forth between a DIY system vs keeping the ADT system. I would like to go away from paying the ADT monthly fees if possible.
I am interested in the the Abode system with the monitoring and cellular backup. Not sure if I would keep the monitoring long term and go with the self-monitor option. I hate the fact that ADT has so much control over their entire system. I have some of the Home Automation systems that Abode currently uses. I estimate, that I would recoup my initial investment and reoccurring fees after 16 months if I go with the Abode system. The savings will widen after 3 years.
What is your opinion on the monitoring aspect of the Abode system? Also if the thieves break into your home and find the gateway and throw it in the toilet would that then disable the Abode system? Right now, if they choose to rip the ADT system off the wall and flush it down the toilet, the system still reports it to central monitoring as an alarm event.
1. Monitoring a system that is not time-tested makes me a little nervous because they are more prone to false alarms. Obviously, you know that I like abode very much, and I would personally feel fine with adding monitoring during a vacation, etc., but I don’t know if I would want it to be my monitored security system all the time. I use Frontpoint for monitoring. It’s an Alarm.com system, and they’ve been around awhile.
2. I’ve asked abode this question before, and I didn’t get a clear-cut answer. What they told me is that abode Signal Guard is a feature that works whether your system is self-monitored or professionally monitored. The abode Signal Guard alarm acts like a normal alarm where notifications are sent to your phone and the siren(s) goes off until the alarm is disabled. So if someone destroys your panel, the alarm is never disabled. If you are a professionally monitored customer, the monitoring center is notified of the abode Signal Guard event. From what I gather, abode will only trigger instantly if you set it that way. The system is set to a one-minute entry delay as the default, but you can adjust this from the abode web app.
If I integrate with nest cameras, and the Internet goes out, will I still be able to have live streaming through abode if I had cellular back up? This is opposed to using abode cameras, where if the Internet goes out, the cellular back up kicks in?
No, Nest Cameras also require internet. There are very few cameras that will work using cellular service, Arlo Go being one such option. There are also very few cameras that will record locally without an internet connection, Oco 2 and Butterfleye are both options that can do that. The abode image sensor will work without internet if you have cellular backup.
Thanks Rose for the great review. I have a few questions. Is there a doorbell camera that works directly with abode? If not then what would you suggest?
When you say that NEST cameras only have limited integration, what exactly is the limitation? It sounds like NEST is your preference
Once installed, is there an option where a company like Frontpoint can monitor the system?
Is there an option for a touchscreen control panel?
Hello again :). Currently, if you want to integrate a doorbell to the system, your only option is to add one via IFTTT. abode does not have a doorbell camera that will integrate with the system directly. There is an IFTTT channel for both Skybell and Ring that you could use. You won’t be able to view either doorbell using the abode app, but you will be able to create a relationship between the doorbells and your security system. That said, Nest has announced Nest Hello, a video doorbell. Though I can’t confirm that it will work with abode, it’s both possible and probable. If you don’t want to wait and see on Nest Hello, I suggest Ring. | One limitation is that from the abode app, you can only see Nest snapshots, not full-length videos, even if you are subscribed to Nest Aware. If there’s an alarm event, you’ll need to check both the abode and Nest app to get the full story. | For use with abode, I prefer Nest over the abode cameras. Nest is a great camera, one of my favorites. I do prefer the regular Nest Cameras over the new Nest IQs though, even with the latest updates announced last week (Google Home integrations, Chromecast streaming, etc.) | No, the only option for monitoring of the abode system is abode. | No, they do not have a touchscreen control panel.
Rose,
We have a lake house that only has cellular service (hot spot). We need something that has outdoor video monitoring, indoor cameras, and an audible alarm. We have many animals walk through our yard that will trigger the cameras. I am trying to secure the house using one application. I was looking at simply safe or abode. Not sold on these. I your experience which would be the best fit for us?
Neither system will give you exactly what you’re after but SimpliSafe would be the better choice. The abode Gateway requires Ethernet with a cellular backup where SimpliSafe can use a 100% cellular signal. Though both systems can use a cellular signal, the cameras require internet. SimpliSafe also lacks a compatible outdoor camera. There aren’t many 4G cameras on the market today, but Arlo Go is probably the best option at this time. Of course, your hotspot might be able to support an internet connected camera. Do you know your upload speed? Arlo’s required upload speed is 1 Mbps, this is for their non-4G cameras like Arlo Pro and Arlo Q. Nest Cam requires at least 2 Mbps. Both Nest Cam and Arlo have paid plans that add person detection, which will cut down on the number of alerts you receive for animals.
Very helpful. Until last week, I had planned to go with Abode, based on your review. But Nest just announced Nest Secure this week, which looks extremely interesting. Things about it that struck me as superior:
– integration with Works with Nest. I already use Nest Protect and Nest Cam, so this is a major plus.
– fit and finish. Nest stuff is awesome.
– extremely functional without a monthly fee. Cellular backup is extra $5/mo
What’s not to like? What’s your opinion?
I don’t have one yet. I had actually planned to write a comparison of abode and Nest. When I get that done, I will drop the link here. My Nest products have always been consistent, and they work with IFTTT in addition to Works with Nest so that’s a plus. The cost upfront cost is high, but abode isn’t cheap either.
Done with the compare. I do have some outstanding questions, and I’m waiting on a response from Nest, but until then, here you go: https://homealarmreport.com/abode-vs-nest-secure/
1st, great review. I’ve been flipping back and forth between SS and Scout for some time. Not satisfied that either could be expanded to home automation. Abode seems to fit my needs.
My questions are 1st you clarified that the cell backup keeps the alarm system up but does it also support the cloud interface?
The other question relates t the cloud. I think that SMart Things version 1 had a cloud component and basically the system used the cloud for everything. When Samsung bought it and restructured it the system would operate locally as well. How is the Cloud used here and for what? Is it local or remote and which functions?
Hey Larry, First of all, the cell backup will still allow you to access the system remotely. For part two, I got the answer direct from abode: “In regards to your question, as long as the abode automation uses devices that are integrated natively to the abode system, the answer is yes, those automations will function even if the internet goes down.
Example: If you have an automation setup in the abode system that closes the garage door when the door from the house to the garage is locked and these devices are integrated directly with abode, the automation will work even if the internet is down.
If you have automations set up that use abode Cloud Integrations (such as IFTTT, Nest) these will not work when the internet is down since the system cannot reach those cloud automations to execute the automation.
abode offers cellular backup as well! If the cellular backup is enabled, all automations will work in the case of loss of internet except for IP camera automations and that’s because IP cameras are IP based and require an internet connection to function.”
Does this help?
I’ve been trying to decide on Abode and SS. The entry cost is keeping me from pulling the trigger. It would cost almost $500 more to use Abode instead of SS. That is basically $500 for better automation. I don’t like that it needs ethernet. That just directs the thief to my home office when they attempt to smash it to disable it. Not sure why the extra siren is corded either. I have vaulted ceilings and can mount the SS siren out of reach. Regardless of where the Abode alarm is placed they can yank it down by the plug.
Really like that the camera texts you the 3 snapshots. Verifying someone in your house and calling 911 means the difference between a low priority and higher priority as far as the police are concerned. That can be the difference between the police maybe showing up in time, or the police showing up 15 minutes after the thief is gone.
I know that SS will pay for shipping if you return it within 60 days. Do they charge a restocking fee?
I like the way you’re approaching your decision. It’s smart. And the answer is no, SS doesn’t charge a restocking fee.
hi, does abode inform you which sensor triggered the alarm? For example, if I have 10 rooms with glass breakers, will I be able to tell which one triggered the alarm just by looking at the keypad or the alert sent to email, etc? thanks.
Hey Cat, you can name the sensors whatever you want. This is done by logging into the abode web app and navigating to the device list tab. You will need to rename the sensors so that you know which sensor triggered the event. You won’t be able to tell which sensor triggered an event by looking at the keypad, but the alert will say, “Your Alarm was activated at 8:09 PM on August 23 by ‘(Custom Name) Glassbreak’,” for example.
Which to buy. I purchased a vacation home (9 hours away) which currently has a GE Simon XT security which probably interfaces with ADT or some company requiring a contract. My question to you is which of the systems (Abode or Simplisafe) would you purchase to have reasonable security? My home is in a development with other houses nearby. Thanks for the great article.
If you just want home security and don’t care about smart home features, probably SimpliSafe. However, for a vacation home, adding smart home features is, well, smart. I would suggest adding a smart thermostat no matter what, and other things depending on if the home will be used as a vacation rental or second home.
Rose – I installed a Honeywell smart thermostat a couple of years ago and it works great. I am now about to buy a DIY home security system. I was all set on a SS system but, after reading your review and these comments, am seriously considering Abode. Will either of them, or any others, integrate with my Honeywell thermostat? Thanks.
Is your thermostat Honeywell Lyric? The answer to, “Does SimpliSafe integrate with Lyric?” is no. abode will not integrate with Lyric directly but you can create rules using IFTTT. For example, “When I arm my abode system Away, Set Lyric temperature to a permanent hold.” Lyric can connect using SmartThings, IFTTT, and HomeKit.
Hey Rose,
Great article, through bake off process, phenomenal analysis! You need to come work in the cyber security space doing the same 🙂
Abode is where I’m leaning towards, do you know if they have a 30 day guarantee or so?
Also, have any referral code / discount that I can use so you get credit.
Cheers
Do you work in cyber security? abode’s return policy isn’t very good. They only allow 14 days, and even then, they will charge you a 20% Restocking Fee and you have to pay for return shipping. And unfortunately, I don’t have a referral code for abode, but thank you for thinking of me.
Hi Rose,
I have been researching home security systems for a while now. I’ve been looking at SimpliSafe and Abode. I was leaning toward SS, but after reading your thorough review, I might take a second look @ Adobe. I just wanted to say thank you very much for your review and comparison of both products. Great job! Very informative. Please continue the great work.
Thanks, Amy!
Thank you for the detailed and very informative article!
I’m leaning towards the Abode system considering I already have several home automation devices in place. I have two questions for you:
1. Is Abode the only system that integrates with Nest Protect?
2. What happens if someone simply smashes the gateway in case I don’t have a monitoring plan? And what if I do?
Thanks!
Hey, Carlos.
1. No. Logitech Harmony, Wink, and Scout Alarm all work with Nest Protect. The device also works through IFTTT where it can connect to other devices and services.
2. If you don’t have a monitoring plan, you should still receive a notification as it can trigger instantly. The system is set to a one-minute entry delay as the default, but you can adjust this from the abode web app. Also, abode has what they call abode Signal Guard. This feature works whether your system is self-monitored or professionally monitored. The abode Signal Guard alarm acts just like a normal alarm where notifications are sent and the siren(s) go off until the alarm is disabled. If you are a professionally monitored customer, the monitoring center is notified of the abode Signal Guard event.
Rose, you have really created the “go to” site for home security, and I can’t even begin to tell you how grateful I am for this invaluable info.
Some time ago I was checking out Canary Security. If you would be so kind to give me any info you might have on this system, I will be forever in your debt. Here is what I found:
http://www.pcmag.com/review/338797/canary-all-in-one-home-security-device
Thanks so much,
Candy
Hey, Candy, I would be happy to give my opinion. I read the article, and I agree with him. I’m also a long-term Canary user, and it is one of my favorite home security cameras. You can read my review here. There have been some updates since the PC Mag article published. 1. Canary now offers temperature/humidity alerts. 2. They have a mask feature, which is basically a way to create activity zones. When you add a mask, Canary will ignore any motion that happens with the area you select, while monitoring the areas outside of the mask. 3. They’ve launched Canary Flex. I’m not a fan of Canary Flex, I’d suggesting sticking with Canary. 4. The cloud plans are significantly different now. For free, you have unlimited downloads and 24 hours of storage. However, as you add cameras, they split the storage amount. For example, two devices equals 12 hours of video history per device, three devices equals 8 hours, and, four devices equals 6 hours. (Read about the other changes in my review I linked to above.) 5. They’ve added Apple TV & iPad support. 6. They now offer custom sounds for push notifications. 7. The camera works with Wink.
Rose – I just purchased my Abode starter system with several add-ons. I did this based on your review and the Abode community. I know they are new to the market, but based on their latest shipping dates, it seems as if they are getting flooded with orders.
Thanks again,
Bob
Oh man. That really stinks. Thanks for sharing this info Bob as some people might make a purchasing decision based upon availability, or lack thereof. I checked out abode’s website and I see that ship dates are out about 2.5 weeks. Is that what they told you?
Yep 8/2 is the ship that that they provided. I pulled the string on the order because I didn’t want to wait 3 or 4 weeks. I just hope it means they are here to stay and will continue to provide support.
Rose – I just received my Abode system today. Setup was absolutely cake, just so darn easy to install. Those folks at Abode spent some time developing a very intuitive system and application.
I am only hours into my first security system and I’m feeling like a made a great decision going Abode. Obviously only time will tell, but I have a feeling I’ll be just as happy in the future.
That’s awesome! So happy to hear that.
Rose – thanks for the review. Very well done. Curious, considering both systems – is there a limitation to these systems based on the size of the house and the number of doors? I know that you can add sensors and other items but am wondering if these systems would work adequately for houses that are say 3,500 sq. feet. Any input you can provide would be great. Thanks again for the review.
I seriously think you will be okay. SimpliSafe claims to work in homes up to 6,000 square feet. If you choose SS, keep the base station in a central location. You can add up to 41 sensors to the system.
Abode can handle even more sensors. The sensors connect to the Gateway using abode’s own protocol, which has a 1,000′ range, or ZigBee and Z-Wave which both can reach about 300′. Of course, walls, building materials, and other things can shorten this range. If needed, you can add a repeater (ZigBee and Z-Wave) to help boost the signal.
Hi Rose
Many Thanks for the wonderful review.
Does abode system has option for local storage of video either to NAS device or USB device or it’s only saved in the cloud.
kirti
Hey! You’re welcome. The Streaming Camera can record to a microSD card. The hub has a USB port, but it’s not active yet, unfortunately.
Hi Rose
Do you you have feedback on getsafe? I believe they are new to the market? Thanks
I don’t, but my colleague reviewed the system here.
Hi Rose! Looking to set up a new home. The priority is security with professional monitoring, but would love the ability to add/upgrade with home automation over time. I love what I have read about Abode, but pricing out a system it will be around $900. Also considering Frontpoint and their glowing reviews. Pricing out a system with them is around $250.
Can you share your perspectives on the comparisons, and when/why it makes sense to choose one vs. the other? From what I can tell, it looks like Frontpoint will be a little more month-to-month for similar monitoring, and a little less connected than Abode, but might be a better option in the long run for reliability/service.
Another concern I have is covering our disconnected garage – Frontpoint seems to have a bit better coverage for that.
Thanks!
For monitored home security, I recommend Frontpoint. Adding professional monitoring to new technology (abode, Scout, etc.) makes me nervous. I expect them to be glitchy. That said, I wouldn’t want a system that calls the police to be glitchy. Frontpoint, backed by Alarm.com is more reliable. I would not, however, pay for Ultimate. Personally, I would, and do, pay for Interactive. I would then add a separate system for home automation. If you have an iPhone, you might be able to automate basic tasks using HomeKit. If you want to do advanced home automation, I recommend a separate hub like SmartThings or Wink.
I love how thorough this review is! Thanks so much for this. Since the camera Abode provides isn’t too good, and Nest doesn’t fully integrate, what would you recommend at this time to provide a few decent indoor and outdoor cameras?
Thanks, Jason. I think Nest is a fine option. It may not fully integrate, but it works well on its own. At this time, my favorite cameras are: Nest (both indoor and outdoor), Canary (I recommend the indoor version only.), Arlo Pro (can work inside or out), and Blink (indoor only right now, outdoor options coming soon). If you want a “few” cameras and are okay with “decent”, I recommend Arlo Pro because buying multiple cameras is going to be economical (comparatively) and they provide free cloud storage. The downside is that Arlo doesn’t record 24/7 like Nest does and it records using HD vs. FHD. For me personally, my use case outdoors requires 24/7 recorded footage so I actually use Nest, Arlo, and a Ring Doorbell. However, for most people, having so many apps to check would probably be rather annoying. I did a compare including the outdoor Nest Cam and Arlo Pro here.
I am wanting to get Adobe to work with my Alexa. I need cameras and it sounds like nest does not integrate fully. Have you tried Blink and, if so, how does it work with Adobe?
Abode has their own camera, but I wouldn’t recommend it. And you’re right, Nest doesn’t fully integrate. I personally don’t mind have two apps – one for cameras and one for security. And yes, I do own a couple of Blink Cameras. I have them set using an IFTTT rule for geofencing so they automatically arm when I leave and disarm when I come home. I prefer that set up over Alexa. The Alexa integration with Blink works okay. I can arm the system with no problem, but I just checked as people have been complaining about the disarm feature and found that they are right. Alexa isn’t understanding the disarm command. First, she ignored me. I tried again and she disabled the skill instead of disarming.
Hi Rose,
After reading your article, I am leaning heavily towards the Abode system over the Simple-Safe system. Are you saying don’t invest in the Abode indoor camera’s instead invest in the Blinks indoor Camera’s? If so how well do they integrate into the Abode system? If not could you recommend a good indoor camera for the Abode system?
Thanks..
I’m not a fan of Abode’s camera. In my opinion, there are a lot of cameras better than Abode’s camera and for the same price. The Blink XT starter kit is definitely a good option if you want to spend under $150. The only third-party camera that integrates directly with Abode is Nest; otherwise, you’ll need to connect a camera using IFTTT. You could say, “If Abode alarm is triggered, have camera start recording.” Blink isn’t the only option, I think it was just mentioned in a previous comment. Any camera that has an IFTTT channel is a good option. Of those that have channels, Arlo Pro, Blink XT, Arlo Q, Nest Cam, and Ring Video Doorbell are all cameras I would recommend for different scenarios.
I have the Blink XT cameras and like their accurate motion detection. I am considering purchasing the Abode system. Is it possible to create a rule that says “If Blink XT camera detects motion, trigger Abode alarm and siren”? If I want to pay for the Abode monitoring, would they be able to review my Blink XT videos to determine if the alert was legit?
It is not possible right now. Blink can trigger if there is motion, but there is no option for Abode to respond with an alarm or a siren. And no, even if you pay for monitoring, they would not be able to view your Blink XT videos :(. That said, Abode is great at taking feedback and making updates.
Hi Rose – Thank you for the excellent article. I’m on the fence with Abode. They’re kind of new to the industry and they’re a small company. Can you please review the Abode system? Would love to see a thorough review from you. Thanks
I’m testing abode now! I will update the article very soon. Do you have any questions I can answer today? In general, things are going as I imagined they would except for a couple of things. 1. The hardware looks cool and modern in the pictures, but it’s actually kind of clunky and cheap feeling. 2. The security camera also feels dated. Other than that, it works well, just as I imagined it would.
Great!
Does it have wireless encryption (I read Simplisafe does not have it)
How well does it work with home automation – such as Amazon Echo, Nest, Zwave, etc…
Does it have a smoke detector? Panic Button? Are they in the works?
How does this compare with iSmartAlarm?
How well is the geo-fencing?
How stable is Abode, the company. I’m kind of worried about investing into a company that might go out of business.
THANK YOU!
1. Yes, all communication between devices and the gateway as well as cloud communication is encrypted.
2. Echo works great. I’ve been testing it, no issues. Nest also works but I’ve only tested Nest Cam. The integration is rather limited but better than nothing. I have not tested any Z-Wave devices.
3. No panic button. It does have a key fob though. Abode does not sell a smoke detector though you can integrate with the Nest Protect smoke alarm. However, I’m assuming this would be self-monitored only.
4. I really enjoy iSmartAlarm too. iSmartAlarm equipment is higher quality, more discreet, and has a lower entry cost. However, they don’t offer professional monitoring, an Amazon Echo integration, Works With Nest, or Z-Wave, so I guess it depends on what you want out of a system? Both iSmart and Abode have crappy camera options, both work with IFTTT, and both send smartphone notifications without a monthly fee.
5. The geofencing feature is excellent. It is the most accurate geofencing feature I’ve ever tested.
6. I don’t know how stable they are unfortunately. I can understand your concern.
The updated review is live :).
Excellent Review! Thank you Rose!
My first security system was Scout but I returned it for Abode and I’m glad I did. I’ve spent a lot of time using both systems and Abode is far superior in nearly every aspect. Your comparison table states that Abode only has “Limited integration with Nest Cam” but they also offer their own indoor streaming camera as well.
Good point on the camera. Thanks for pointing that out.
You have some inconsistencies here; your first table has a lot of “X” cells for Scout, but then lists those same features (IFTTT, Works with Nest, etc.) as applicable to Scout in the second table. I have a Scout system installed, and I can tell you that almost all of those cells in the first chart should have a check mark in Scout’s column.
I have a Scout system too. Scout offers those features, but not for free. UNLESS you were an early backer. If you were an early backer, you might have access to those features for free, but all new users have to pay for those features. The first chart compares using the systems for free. The second chart compares what you get if you pay a monthly fee. Hope that helps clear things up!
Just so I understand one major overlooked component. Rose mentioned the need for a constant LAN connection. Does this mean without internet connectivity such as the network going down you’ve now lost the whole purpose of your security system? I question this as it contradicts the purpose of the cellular ability. I would venture to say people’s internet providers do go down from time to time and if this is the case they would be susceptible during this time. Is this accurate to say? The reason for my questions is I’m also weighing Simplisafe (which is antiquated tech but put quite simply it works) vs. Abode which would tie into all my existing home automation. Granted if it requires always functioning LAN/Internet it’s a dealbreaker.
I apologize for being confusing. In this case, cellular is a backup connection for abode. If your internet goes down, the cellular backup will kick-in to keep the system up and running, assuming you pay for cellular backup. Scout and SimpliSafe both have the option for cellular only communication.
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